Comments on: Niche Devil a Scam ?!

By: Paul@Sony MDR 7506

Paul@Sony MDR 7506 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:36:18 +0000

I’ve been building niche sites by hand for quite a while now. They seem to work fairly well so I’m reluctant to try and use a script such as the one mentioned in this article.

The risk of Google banning all of the sites from a particular script just isn’t worth it. Instead I do the keyword research myself and then have several employees that build everything by hand using wordpress and a few specialized plugins.

Seems much less risky and honestly, the sites have real content on them that is useful for their visitors, not just spammy buy this product type stuff. So everyone wins.
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By: hospitalera

hospitalera — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:05:26 +0000

Yes, imho, Chitika is an excellent adsense alternative or addition to it, SY

By: how to make money online

how to make money online — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:09:42 +0000

So would you say that Chitika is the best second choice if you don’t want to use Adsense on a certain site? Or is there something better?

By: hospitalera

hospitalera — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:04:30 +0000

@Jack Sinclair
Excellent points, yes if you want to build up a portfolio of quality web sites that also produce income in future, such scripts are not the way to go. And for flipping such sites? Not my cup of tea, also you could run into problems with the script writer as you would have to pass the script on with the site. And I don’t think that was allowed, SY

By: Jack Sinclair

Jack Sinclair — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:30:06 +0000

I think of it as “you get out what you put in”, and from what you’ve described, you can probably make some short term money with this thing, but not enough to cover the expense of joining the program, and when the sites get pushed off the top 1000 search results or delisted, then it’s all wasted effort.

Why not spend some time on a winning blog configuration, and then get some tools to do quick reproduction of a blog setup, and then add your own unique high quality material?

The only thing I can think of that would make you profit on this is to set these sites up as fast as you can, and then flip them for $50 soon as google indexes them.
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By: hospitalera

hospitalera — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:25:39 +0000

@lowrdr
Lol, that was the reason I started to switch to Mac SY

By: lowrdr

lowrdr — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:49:05 +0000

I can’t comment on a re-launch because I do not know, but when microsoft posted they’re crappy operating system and everyone paid $75-$150 for it, they made a better one, and still charged people who already had it.

Worked for them.

By: hospitalera

hospitalera — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:02:44 +0000

@lowrdr
Copyright works differently in different countries, from a wikipedia article: “but most recognize copyright in any completed work, without formal registration.” see complete article here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright In one point I agree with you, I also don’t run around and check for duplicate content of my web sites. I also don’t use copyscape, perhaps I should, but my experience so far with copyright infringement is that it is very difficult to fight. (I had some cases where people misused my photos and I can tell you that international copyright cases are an absolute nightmare and if you don’t have a lot of money for a lawyer, a waste of time and effort.)
Regarding one earlier point you made “I created roughly 15 websites in a matter of 1 week” If I remember right the original sales pitch for Niche Devil was on the lines of “Less then 2 minutes per site setup” Seeing that you worked a week on 15 sites, shows that you did much more then just run the script. I guess you added a lot of additional content and made some effort to reduce the footprint considerably. And I guess that that is also the reason the sites are still indexed and make money, because you put some effort into them and didn’t rely only on an automated script.
“As far as not linking my webpages, considering the content we’re talking about, you should be giving me kudos, for not being stupid.”
I wouldn’t call it stupid if you link for example to your blog or similar, I didn’t expect anybody here in this discussion to link to their Niche Devil created site But as I said earlier, this whole discussion is a bit late as Niche Devil is “sold out”, or do they plan a re-launch? SY

By: lowrdr

lowrdr — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:50:58 +0000

Copyright infringement applies to works that have actually been righted. Tossing up a copyright logo on your web page, and claiming all works in that site belong to you, are falsities. There is a huge difference between plagiarism which has spread like wildfire through the web, and copyright infringement. In order for me to infringe on your copyright, you would actually have to own a copyright, that is licensed and for a certain publication, or series of publications.

Plagiarism, even at its worst, is not copy right infringement. However, the question was, how would I feel if someone copied my sites content and reused it as their own… I own roughly 38 domains with about 200 different sites/blogs/forums in those domains.

I have quite often found product reviews that have been reused without so much as a change of a word, am I offended? Not really, I’m actually pretty impressed that others feel my work is worth copying, I do however notify the owner that they should write their own reviews, its much better for the SEO quality of their page. However, I don’t run around checking the content of all my pages against the web, that’s why I use copyscape. (I have noticed you don’t)

As far as not linking my webpages, considering the content we’re talking about, you should be giving me kudos, for not being stupid.

By: hospitalera

hospitalera — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:52:35 +0000

@lowrdr
As the product is no longer available the discussion here becomes a bit irrelevant, but it is nice to hear that at least one person got their investment back and even earned some money. I also noticed that you didn’t link a web site to your name, so I take this comment you made with a pinch of salt as you practically post as “anonymous”. But if “The “Moral Dilemma” of the scraped content does not concern me,…” is your attitude then I am not surprised at all that you don’t want to show who you are! I must say for me content scraping equals copyright infringement. How would you feel if somebody steals and uses your content? SY