Today.com closed my Golden Prague blog down

Wow, getting up this morning was really not a good idea. In my inbox was an email with the following content:

“We understand that you are unhappy blogging with Today.com. As such we will be closing out your account for you. Your blog earnings to date will be sent to you in the next pay cycle. We want to thank you for trying out Today.com and are sorry the program has not lived up to your expectations. We certainly wish you the best in your future endeavors. Sincerely, Today.com Support”

As I tried to sign in my dashboard > impossible, accessing the today.com blogger forum > impossible. They just kicked me completely out. Thinking of blogging for today.com? Think twice. My Prague Blog was comfortably in the Top100 and most of the time even in the Top50 of their blog statistics. I was active in the forums and was helping others with answering questions and mentoring other blogs. I was blogging daily, missing max 1 or 2 days per month. So what had happened? Two days earlier I had received another email from today.com stating:

“This email is to let you know that your blog has been reviewed by an editor and your payment rates have changed.

When reviewing blogs we look at quality, productivity, popularity, and potential. Taking those things into consideration we made a decision to change your rate this month. Your new program is $x.xx per 1,000 unique visitors. The new rate goes into effect 2009-04-17 ET. You will not be paid per post.” [Amount of dollar removed by me].

So despite of having a successful, active blog that was, by their own ranking list, in the top 5-10% of all the blogs on today.com, my blog didn’t made the cut anymore? To say that I was upset was putting it mildly. As I checked the private today.com blogger forum I saw that a thread had already started. And that a lot of other Top50/ Top100 blogs were down graded to be paid for traffic only and not anymore be paid by post. The answers from Today.com were pointing in the direction that only blogs that generated enough income would stay in the pay per post program, all others, not important their page rank, their position in the serp for their topic and the traffic/ back links they generated for the whole today.com domain would only be paid for the traffic they generated. I didn’t make much noise in the forum, very unusual for me 😉 , instead I wrote a blog post that has been meanwhile deleted. Text (I nearly always keep copies from everything I write) below:

“Taking a break from Today

I will take a break from blogging here for the moment. Hubby and I are going to Switzerland next week, I took on a new project (re-vamping a web site) and also started finally my personal blog at Hospitalera’s Blog. There are simply only so many hours in one day and I have to decide where to spent them best. And yes, that means also where I have the best earnings or at least the best earnings potential. After my return from Switzerland I will decide from where to run the second World Blog Surf Day, but most likely it will be from my own blog. In all cases I will contact the bloggers that have already agreed to participate when I know more. See you soon, and if you miss me you can always find me at Hospitalera’s Blog.”

Notice the words “I will take a break from blogging here for the moment.” ? That apparently triggered the email I got today. So, what will I do now? One thing that today.com hasn’t considered is that there is more to blogging than only writing content and posting it! There are friendships to be made and maintained, link exchange, mutual help in promoting each others blogs etc. Today.com also took my entrecard widget down, leaving seven other bloggers that were already in queue ‘hanging in the air’. The also took my widget from along for the ride down , doing the same damage to the bloggers in that ring surf. Now it is for me to clean up the mess today.com has caused! As I am not anymore able to maintain my Prague expat blog, I will inform everybody on my blogroll that I am not anymore maintaining the blog and leave it to them to remove the link or not. I will inform entrecard and apologize to the bloggers that were waiting to advertise for free on my blog via entrecard. I will remove it from all listings I had put it in. Even if today.com would now come back to me and offer me Golden Prague back, I wouldn’t take it. I have completely lost confidence in this company. Do you want to write for today.com? Better think twice! SY

PS The link to the blog in question is rel=”nofollow”, don’t worry 😉

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103 comments to Today.com closed my Golden Prague blog down

  • Hi Hospitalera,
    Yes…that blogging platform is doing some major things wrong. Right away, I knew what had happened–that your comment about taking a break was what caused them to take action. But to completely cut you off…that’s so wrong. I’ve had a couple of experiences with them like this, too..but your blog being ranked so high, and all your participation in the forums, etc…they have made a huge error in treating you this way!

    I’m sorry to hear that Golden Prague will no longer be. I’m happy you have this site and we can stay in touch here and on Twitter. Good luck…you do a great job…so I know this blog will take off like a shot!!

    Have a great day, in spite of Today (no rhyme intended!),
    Sher :0)

  • hospitalera

    Thanks again for the head up, Sher! Yes, they are doing quite a few things wrong, one being to put too much advertising on the blogs, you can barely see the content anymore. I know that they got advice offered from internet marketers that are far more experienced than I am, but I don’t have the feeling that they are listening. They downgraded most of their top bloggers. I don’t think that these people will continue to put much effort in promoting the site! Nevertheless, it is also a blessing in disguise, as I am now free to work on this blog which I host lol, so the only person that can mess things here up is my good self! See you soon, take care, SY

  • Roz

    Gosh! I am shocked! It’s incredible that your blog was shut down like that with no warning at all, especially considering your position in the rankings and all the work you have put into it.

    I received the same email as you this week regarding the rate changes and, from the forum posts, it looks like a lot of other today bloggers did too, including very high ranking ones. And now this…

    Anyway, I wish you every success with this blog – it looks as if you have got off to a flying start. I haven’t commented yet but have enjoyed reading your posts. I would still like to participate in the second World Blog Surf Day.

    Hope that you have a good break in Switzerland.

    Best wishes,

    Roz

  • Unfortunately, I didn’t get a chance to see your Today.com blog. It sounds like it was a real winner.

    I don’t understand how Today operates, but I do know from experience that I started a blog with them recently and was quickly demoted to a rate per page view payment plan. Since then I think I’ve added one more post, but have decided not to bother with them.

    It’s just a matter of time before I receive the final “You’re Fired” email.

    Great post!

  • Yeah, seemed like just about everyone got demoted, and I guess the staff are now hyper-sensitive about “bad publicity” perhaps? I don’t think your [deleted] post was defamatory, nor did it discuss the pay itself or recent shenanigans,,, I suppose it was the title itself that they chose to take to mean you weren’t going to bother with them anymore?!

    I saw from the RSS feed in Entrecard that there was a post about taking a break and Switzerland, but when I dropped over I saw neither EC widget nor the post, and wondered about it, and moved on. Now I know that happened. Wow.

    I’ve deleted the Prague blog from my blogroll. For the moment it doesn’t seem as if you’re running this site as an “expat” blog, so I’ve added you to my Google Reader for the moment. Once I figure out my overall plan wrt blogrolling.com vs Google Reader (I recently found out I can generate blogrolls from Google Reader! There is hope!) I think I can get my act together wrt linky love for ya 🙂

    Hope to still see ya over at my many digs! I’ll certainly be dropping by here.

    Cheers,
    *lynne*

  • hospitalera

    @Roz
    Yes, it also took me a tiny bit by surprise ;-)Give me some days away in Switzerland and I will have here a Prague Expat category in no time. With enough base to host the WBSD in June! I fear only that today.com will not survive in its current form, and that is a pity for all the bloggers that have set their heart in it. SY

  • hospitalera

    @Felicia
    Oh, you can still see it here. They just cut me off from editing it, they would be crazy to through good content away. SY

  • hospitalera

    @*lynne*
    Lol, if they are afraid of ‘bad publicity’ they shouldn’t have kicked me out 😉 Like you see above, my now deleted, post was really tame. Grace God I am paranoid of data loss and keep everything backed up! Thanks for deleting the link, it would also not be fair to the readers of your blog that visited mine to present them with an abundant blog. No, the expat section needs developing here, until this morning I did see my priorities a bit differently. But now it is one, as I will host the WBSD here. Thanks again for your kind words and I make sure to drop by your blogs through entrecard 😉 SY

  • Does that mean you will not get it back, no matter if you reason with them, the fact that you are only leaving for a while? Thanks for leaving me the message telling me about the WBSD and hopefully everything will be settled.

    nurin

  • hospitalera

    @Nurin
    Even if they offered me the blog back, I wouldn’t want it, I lost completely trust in today.com and I can’t work with somebody that I don’t trust. In the end kicking out/ demoting so many good bloggers will be their lost, not ours. SY

  • Val

    Yep, I got the same email, apparently because of what I said in the forums. I thought I was quite civil and never said I was going to leave–I said I had to consider my options and *might* leave. Nice that they made the choice for me. I guess they only want shiny happy people at Today.

  • hospitalera

    @Val
    I feared that I was not the only one this happened to. Do you have another blog to continue with? Any help you need just shoot me a comment. SY

  • Hi! I found this post while I was Googling to try to find out why I was locked out.

    And then, a few minutes later, I got the email too! The same exact one that you got.

    They are strange people there, who seem to be trying to run their company is if it were a cult.

    By the way, I remember you as being an exceptionally nice person, with one of the site’s most successful blogs! I’m more shocked that you were kicked out than that I was!

    — Ms Terri, former writer of LOSTfan.today.com

  • Val

    No, I don’t have another blog, sadly. I’d planned on starting one and migrating to it slowly, but apparently now it’s going to happen sooner than I planned.

    I have fans on LJ that have been reading my blog, so they will still be there when I start up a new blog at least.

    Thank you for your offer, I’m sure I’ll take you up on it!

  • Onceandfuturefarmer

    Hey, at least you got an e-mail! I was logged in this morning just fine, then this afternoon went to check the forum for an answer to a question I’d posted in Support…and was given the “Your account is inactive” screen. Tried to log into the blog control panel, same thing. Surprise! I’ve e-mailed support as directed on the redirect screen…no answer, of course.

    Add me to the disappointed ranks. I just wonder how many bloggers they’ve really cut today? I know there are at least a couple of others…and they were good blogs, too, much better traffic than mine. One must wonder….

  • hospitalera

    @Ms Terri
    Interesting comment you made regarding the “today cult”. Thanks for your kind words, yes, it seems this time they concentrated to kick the successful bloggers out??? I mean where is the sense in this??? SY

  • hospitalera

    @Val
    You can always set one up at google’s blogspot for free. No downtime, no editor, and you can use your own adsense/ adverts or not. Keep in touch, SY

  • hospitalera

    @Onceandfuturefarmer
    I don’t know exact numbers but it is certainly more than a handful of the top bloggers there that got kicked out and the vast majority of the top bloggers got demoted to pay-for-traffic only. Doesn’t make any business sense to me. A lot of people will now take their links to today.com down, I wonder if they counted that in? SY

  • Some of the best blogs have been booted. Rocket Scientist, Flitting on Fiction, 30 Something and Searching…the list is endless.

    I think I may have been the first one, on April 5th.

    You know what you’re going to get next? A letter from Today.com, asking if you’d like to advertise there!!

    When I got mine, I sent my reply as two words: “AS IF.”

  • blogging for Today suck now. I recommended them to a lot of my friends.Your blog was awesome and they should not have deleted it without resolving things. Its there loss not your!

  • hospitalera

    @Phyl
    If that happens I’ll scream soo loud that they can still here me from where they are! SY

  • hospitalera

    @Melody
    Yes, and that is what I don’t understand, they kicked the good bloggers out! When they had done the monthly review before it was mostly the blogs that got never updated and had poor content that got demoted. Now they downgraded nearly all their Top50 bloggers! Doesn’t make any business sense to me! SY

  • Stupid, is what it is. Loyalty is more from the bottom up, but more than that, having a few grumbly bloggers is considerably less damaging to their reputlation than have mad-as-hell bloggers out in the world telling the world WHY they’re mad as hell.

    I’m tempted to send an e-mail (“Aren’t you running out of feet to shoot?”)

    Stephanie

  • hospitalera

    @Stephanie
    They are even more stupid, I checked their privacy policy and it hasn’t the update included that Google requires to be there since the 8th April. I mean they call themselves a business and risk to have their google adsense account closed because of such a stupid oversight?
    And yes, looking around the web seems the mad-as-hell bloggers are making their voice heard! SY

  • Wow. I return from a vacation to all of this craziness! I haven’t decided yet what I’m going to do about my own blog as I’ve just started with Journeys and Adventures and am not sure that I have the time or the energy to start all over.

    I’m glad I’ve subscribed to this blog to at least keep up with you. Good luck!

  • […] is quite simple. I belately saw a post on my friend’s  Hospitalera’s blog about how today closed down my blog.  Now I’ve known hospitalera on several sites and everywhere she is helpful and pleasent on […]

  • Wow SY how the hell did I miss this post! I figured you’d been cut from the ppp -so was I and the Australia blog was around #40 in the traffic list at that stage! Now though I am seriously pissed off – so of course I wrote a post about it, censorship of “private” forums (I wonder how private they are that would explain the censorship) and now this – well I already have traffic for “is today a scam” – now I guess I’ll have a bit more 🙂
    I really don’t think the owner understands SEO even a little bit!

  • Mike

    Your content is still up though. You should try and get them to remove it so you can add it to your own site.

  • hospitalera

    @Mike
    today.com was/is ‘paid to blog’ so they own the copyright to the blog posts I wrote and they have paid for. But they don’t own the copyright to my ideas 😉 SY

  • Wow. WOW. When Golden Prague was on EC, I would frequently read it. Then everything got crazy with Today.com not allowing people to use EC (not sure how that turned out), and right after we were onto the problems of paid ads vs credit-earned ads. I went looking for Golden Prague today and now I know what the deal is!

    When I first heard of Today.com I signed up. I was approved – but before posting once, I decided it didn’t make sense to basically “give” my blog to someone else. I knew they could control it – possibly shutting it down at any time. Altho I was able to write about the topic I chose, I knew they would have the final say over what I wrote – and I knew I didn’t want to give anyone that much control. (Not that anything I write about is controversial in the least!) I suppose I’m too selfish to want to let someone else profit off my work. (I hope that makes sense.)

    I’m sorry it turned out like this for you. I think you’re a great blogger, and like I said, I was looking for you earlier today. I’m glad I came across this blog and now know where you’re at! Today.com sounds like a crummy company that doesn’t know what it’s doing – but at least you’re out of that mess and onto something YOU control. You seem to be a helpful, kind person and I enjoy reading your posts. I appreciate the information you share and like your style of writing.

    Keep it up – it’s definitely their loss. Now you hold the keys to your own success – and I have no doubt you’ll be more successful on your own terms. Congrats on the new blog – I’ll be back often!

  • hospitalera

    @Katherine
    You are so right, the only thing that attracted and kept me, for a while, blogging at today.com was the authority of the domain. I figured it was really easy to get ranked high in the search engine for my key words with a url like prague.today 😉 Now it is a bit more difficult, and as you have seen my new blog is a bit different from Golden Prague 😉 I learned over the years quite a bit about blogging, seo, internet marketing, serp etc etc and I am happy to share this knowledge now for free. Thanks God I had this ‘old’ domain with my internet nick.com, so google started to index me right away and I am really pleased so far how things develop. Again, thanks again for your kind words, btw you might be also interested in the blogger forum I am hosting here. Hope to see you soon and take care, SY

  • […] lot of bloggers have been kicked from today.com recently, you can read my own story about my experience with today.com. I would like to help others with the same fate to stay in contact and to promote their new blogs/ […]

  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    That are very serious claims and accusations you make, but do you have any proof for all what you say. I am not a big fan of today.com as you may imagine, but I am also not a big fan of anti-Semitic remarks! Your comment was borderline on being edited because of this. What does the religion / ethnicity of somebody have to do with their business behavior? SY

  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    Anti-semitic in the sense that it isn’t important if one or more owners of today.com are Jewish and how many times you have seen a rabbi in the offices.I don’t ask that you reveal your identity or something similar, but a few urls that show / proof how today.com is connected with adult businesses would be helpful and give you more credibility. As I said before, I am surely no friend of today.com, but try to see your comments from the point of view of my other blog readers. What would you think if somebody puts this kind of accusations up without sharing any facts to proof them? SY

  • donny

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  • Ms Terri

    I’m going to side-step the argument about what is and is not anti-Semitic (I’m Jewish, and I don’t really want to get into a discussion on that topic at the moment), but I can verify, from my own research, that Today.com is involved in pornography.

    I’ve posted about it in several places. I actually first realized it while I was writing on Today’s own bulletin board, trying to figure out why I had a referal from a XXX link — I started off posing a question, then started doing research at the same time, posting what I was finding on the thread — when I realized it was a tracking link, the whole thing started to unravel. Then they deleted the thread.

    You can see read a thread about this in the comments section of my Today Exiles post — (not in the post itself — scroll down to the comments). There is also an earlier thread about this in the comments section of my own blog (starting here, with a post by onceandfuturefarmer, with my responses several posts below).

    IIRC, I had more information which I posted on a forum that I think is now inactive, but I can try to dig it up if anyone is interested.

  • I was just about to post and comment that Terri had found all that info, but I scrolled back and realized she had already posted about it. 🙂

  • I do think you’d be wiser, though, Donny, just to leave out references to anyone’s that someone’s ethnic or religious background if you have factual evidence that they’re unethical. Someone’s ethnic background doesn’t automatically connect them to a religious viewpoint. (e.g. being Jewish doesn’t automatically mean a person practices Judaism) I think the others are right — you actually have enough evidence of non-ethical behaviour by Today.com without even making any connection to religious or ethnic matters.

    It would only be different if they had one website that was very “holier than thou” and religious and condemned pornography, while simultaneously running a bunch of porn sites. That’s the only time someone’s religious stance would ever be relevant. And that actually wouldn’t even have to be a religious question; there are staunch atheists who don’t like porn too, and they’d be just as culpable if they did the same sort of thing.

    So I think you were a bit overenthusiastic in your interpretations of things. It doesn’t matter if Dave is Jewish; it *does* matter if he’s unethical. And even having a porn site may not be unethical in itself, depending on other factors. (Consenting adults, yadda yadda.) But the deception and lies they use, not to mention the stealing — oh yes. Absolutely unethical.

  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @MsTerri
    Hi, nice to see you again, how is life treating you? Thanks for posting these links, I still will have to click to a lot of the information and links included in them. What I still don’t see clear is: Is Today.com actively involved in the p..n-industry? Is Today.com owned and run by one or more persons actively involved in the p..industry? Or is the domain today.com registered and/or owned by a person that owns also domains that carry p..n-sites? So far I can’t see that clear, but there was the talked of a domain broker that (pre-)financed the domain today.com and that he is involved in such dealings with p..n sites. Which would mean, if true, that domain owner and site owners might be two completely different entities? What do you think?

    @Donny
    You asked: I’m not sure how you put facts up here.” MsTerri gave a good example how to put up same background information, including links, perhaps if you have something similar, as you used to work for them? Nobody here asks you to reveal your identity, but it would be interesting to know how much the connection to the p..n-industry actually influences the day to day business at today.com. SY

  • I was just rereading what I had written in the Today Exiles comment, and I followed the links there — and I saw that Today has changed the registration for some of their websites AGAIN.

    A site registered, at the time I wrote that comment, by Mainstream Mails is now registered by CAT Internet Services. A site first registered by Amosely, then at the time of the comment, by Domain Services, is now registered again by Amosely.

    And that comment was written only three months ago. So that’s a lot of changes in a short period of time. When people shuffle around records of ownership like that, there’s usually something going on.

    Anyway, if you are looking for evidence of a porn-business connection, follow the links in that comment, and you’ll see it.

    Or just do this: Pull up the “who.is” page for Today.com — click here. Look at the second box, where it says “CONTENT DATA.” Look at “Owned domains” in the last line. Click on “dailydollar.com” Look at the “Owned domains” on that page. Voila. (Not safe for work.)

  • donny

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  • Hi. We must have been simultaneously writing — I didn’t see your comment until after I posted mine.

    You wrote:

    Hi, nice to see you again, how is life treating you?

    Very well, thanks, and I hope life is treating you kindly as well.

    Thanks for posting these links, I still will have to click to a lot of the information and links included in them. What I still don’t see clear is: Is Today.com actively involved in the p..n-industry?,

    I don’t know that. They all seem to stem from the same company, located at the same mailing addresses. It seems to be one company with many different names, but I can’t prove that for sure at the moment.

    I do believe there is a direct connection because of the tracking link I found in the stats of my Today blog, which was tracking, via Google Analytics, referrals from one of the p-n sites to my blog.

    Is Today.com owned and run by one or more persons actively involved in the p..industry? Or is the domain today.com registered and/or owned by a person that owns also domains that carry p..n-sites? So far I can’t see that clear, but there was the talked of a domain broker that (pre-)financed the domain today.com and that he is involved in such dealings with p..n sites. Which would mean, if true, that domain owner and site owners might be two completely different entities? What do you think?

    I think you are asking very good questions. This is just my opinion, but I don’t believe that the domain owner and site owners are different entities. There are just too many connections. Everything seems to come back to Amosely Corp and CAT Industries.

    The domain broker appears to be out of the picture now — sites previously registered to the broker are now registered to Amosely.

    This is all very tangled and confusing — I suspect intentionally so. To me, it looks like someone who is trying to cover thier tracks, but again that is just my opinion.

  • donny

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  • donny

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  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    I cloaked the links you gave a bit and added a no-follow tag to them, otherwise they re intact. Thanks for the information! SY

  • hospitalera

    @Phyl
    Nice to see you here! How are the books? 😉 Isn’t it funny how today.com brings us all together again from time to time?! Good advice that you gave! SY

  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    Are you still working for them? I thought the organization would be bigger, if they are only 4-6 people, they need only to do a 1+1=2 and they know who “Donny” is. You might also consider to contact an employment lawyer, because they kind of “tricked” you into the job. SY

  • donny

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  • donny

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  • Donny wrote:

    Attention, not work safe
    (be careful this IS a porn site)
    Above is announces it’s launch that it is attached to cyberfuse and mentions David Sichel as President..

    That clinches it, as far as proof of a connection.

    But there is one office and one office alone that are ALL these companies. WIth a total of the owner, controller and 2 software guys. then there are 2 nephews of the owner. so they may be each different biz names for their legal reasons but it is one place. Located at the morrisville pa address.

    That’s just how I pictured it!

    I was wondering if you knew anything about Amosely Corp? That name keeps on popping up in many things related to Today.com. It’s a Canadian company (also registered in the Netherlands, if I recall correctly).

    Also, do you have any idea why they got into the blogging business? People in the p-n business are usually interested in quick and easy money, and blogging is generally not very profitable. Is it that they didn’t realize that blogging is not a cash cow? Or is it that they wanted to have a respectable company as a front for the p-n businesses?

  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    I hope you got your old job back? Or found at least a good new one? SY

  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    “Cloaked” is actually not the right term. I just made it into a text link and added a nofollow link to it. Don’t want to give these sites any link love. For linking I wrote some years ago an article on an old site, not updated and the pictures are gone, but it is still pretty good to explain the basics of linking http://sybilleyates.com/LOLinking.html 😉 SY
    @MsTerri
    Perhaps you and Donny should get together and write a comprehensive article about all of this. I volunteer to do the seo and traffic magic for it 😉 SY

  • Perhaps you and Donny should get together and write a comprehensive article about all of this. I volunteer to do the seo and traffic magic for it.

    Yeah, that’s an interesting idea.

  • donny

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  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    Funny that your comment went through on http://freelancewrite.about.com mine always get deleted / not approved! SY

  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    You are right, you are the first “non-blogger” that came out with information / experiences about today.com. Gives us certainly an additional point of view. I would also suggest that you warn your colleagues in the trade, not that somebody makes the same mistake that you made and gives up his / her job for today.com! But you are also right in saying that you need to keep your mind focused on positive things like finding a good job. I would really appreciate if you would update us from time to time how life is going on for you, SY

  • donny

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  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    Have a look for yourself at their alexa.com info, http://alexa.com/siteinfo/today.com No, they were never a big fish in my opinion. What attracted me, and others, to the site was the high Google authority a domain name like today.com could achieve. Imagine this domain name in the hand of a travel site. Can you say “today Paris” or “today New York City”. If it would be my site I would have some ideas how to market this “today” factor in Google. Rofl, but I don’t have the money nor the technical skills for that, just the ideas!
    Good luck with the BBB and as I said, keep us updated how life is treating you! SY

  • donny

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  • donny

    I need to send out an appology here. I would like to say that I have no proof as to the claims I posted on here regarding Today. They never discussed anything with me other than my job at hand,(which WAS NOT “adult” based what so ever). Please know that I wrote everything with emotion, that I was hurt and speaking about things I should not and that I know nothing about. I hope that you would consider deleting my posts as I can’t on my end but would very much like to. My intent is not to harm anyone or any business with what I have typed on here. I should have never said that I recorded a conversation as my proof. I’m surely not a tech savy person to be able to figure that out nor is anything on record from that company. I was simply trying to prove credible by saying I did that. So please, I am sorry that I typed this info and I am embarrassed by it. I hope that everyone understands that I was mad and people say some not- to- nice things when they are mad and emotional. I appologize. I don’t know how to right this wrong other than to posting a public appology.

  • hospitalera

    @Donny
    You are confusing us here a bit,are you saying that all what you told us about today.com was a lie? And how does it come that others have joined the discussion and reported similar findings to yours? If you are under pressure from today.com or anybody else I am happy to delete your comments if it that what you want and not just another mood swing. SY

  • Ms Terri

    Donny, I have no idea what is going on, but if they are threatening you, I advise you to speak to a lawyer — you can probably get a consultation for free or low cost.

  • hospitalera

    @Doony
    All your comments, less the apology, have been deleted as you asked me to by email. All the best for the future, feel free to come back and tell us how your life is going on. SY

  • hey hospitalera… I was just deleting comments at freelancewrite.about.com as requested by a commentor, and found your comments hanging in limbo– “pending” probaly cause of your links. Anyway they are up now. Sorry about that…. I was also in Mexico for most of July, so I’m behind. I’m confused as to what’s going on here and the request to delete comments…. but…. My opinion on Today.com/any blogs that hire freelance writers: if you’re not making a decent hourly rate, don’t bother. THere are plenty of freelance writing jobs out there.

  • hospitalera

    @freelancewirte.about.com
    Thanks for the update! Today.com continues now since more than 6 months to “hire and fire” writers. They hire them with promises like you get paid for your content if you are good enough and when people start to criticize them, they fire the writer in question, keeping all content for free ;-( SY

  • It is sad how obsessed you still are with today.com.Do you really think Today.com ever thinks of you? Look at your blog no readers amazing why today.com didn’t fire you the first week.Someone admits the lied about people said anti Semitic remarks about someone who works there and you publish it.I hope today.com sues you it maybe a hate crime. But you are to stupid to get that.If that’s not enough i am sure today knows who you are heck they paid you Keep it up you are making today.com money.
    haaaa

  • hospitalera

    @Johnny
    I was really tempted to delete your comment because it is so disconnected from reality, but then decided against it. The funniest part was that you said “Look at your blog no readers…” you really had a good look around her 😉 So instead arguing with you I let my non-existing readers decide what to think of you, most likely they will ignore you. BTW, interesting that you didn’t put up your real name / web site, Mr Johnny Anonymous

  • And now they’ve got another nasty trick. They’ve taken our blogs and slapped full-screen pages on top of them, which have ads for porn sites. You can’t even read the blogs themselves — the parts that aren’t hidden under the porn-ad page are shrouded in a dark translucent overlay.

    (If I recall correctly, porn-site marketing was one of their earliest businesses. It looks like they are reverting back to their roots. It’s disgusting that they are using our blogs for bait.)

    I wrote more about this on the Today Exiles blog: Look what Today.com did now — this is unbelievable
    .-= Ms Terri@LOST blog´s last blog ..Bumbershoot part 2: ‘Fortunately, Damon loves time travel’ =-.

  • hospitalera

    @Ms Terri
    It looks to me more like their site got hacked, and honestly, the ads are pretty similar to what you see on parked pages with the wrong keywords in the url. I imagined something much more graphic, but when I checked the screen shots you posted I found them pretty tame, a smiling face and same text links. Perhaps it is time to let go of today.com, there is more out there then only them, time to move on? SY

  • I’m not sure what you consider “tame,” but if you look at the links on the screenshots, they go to “Free Sex Videos: Only Full Length XXX Sex Videos Free to Watch — Always” and “Porn Equals Art: Jonathan Yeo on his porn collages of George Bush and Paris Hilton” and “Buy Celebrity Sex Tapes: Paylin, Pam, Paris and More at Libida Read Our Celebrity Sex Tape Guide” and “Britney Goes Clubbing w/Out Panties Again.”

    That’s not what I want people to find when they follow a Google link with my writing name on it expecting to find something completely different.

    It’s my reputation that’s at stake.

    Forget about the “XXX” aspect of it. Even if that part doesn’t bother you (and I know it doesn’t bother a lot of people), Today.com is still doing a redirect, taking the web searchers from the site they mean to visit (i.e. my old blog) to a different page entirely. That’s spamming. And being considered a spammer is even worse than being considred a pornographer — although I’d rather not be considered either one.
    .-= Ms Terri@LOST for a reason´s last blog ..Bumbershoot part 2: ‘Fortunately, Damon loves time travel’ =-.

  • Ms Terri – I googled “Ms Terri” I only found your today blog after I googled +”Ms Terri” +today.com – i.e. no potential client is ever going to find you by name. What I did find was msterri.com – not sure if that is your site – but if its not I suggest you look for a different pseudonyum or start branding say Ms Terri Writer and make sure you own the dot com
    .-= lissie@residual income builder´s last blog ..Residual Income Without A Website =-.

  • hospitalera

    @Ms Terri
    Today.com is up again and shows ads for — art posters on my blog, so that is really tame! If they were / are not hacked then they simply put a pop up ad (full page) over blogs that were 6+ months inactive. If you are really so concerned then you should contact a lawyer and get him / her to send today.com a cease and desist letter. Or you could simply sue them for damaging your online reputation. But what really would help you is to get over the whole today.com episode! How long do you want to nourish this fixation? There is a lot more to do in life then to nourish a grunge against a company. You are just wasting your energy without gaining anything, SY

  • hospitalera

    @ lissie
    Something says me that msterri.com is not her domain 😉 For the rest, good advice, SY

  • Hospitalera, I won’t bother you again with news about what Today is doing. I hadn’t realized that you were so opposed to hearing about it! If I had known that, I wouldn’t have posted my comment here.

    But for myself, I am proud that a group of us Exiles fought them, and that we won — they have now taken down the porn-ad overlays. I consider it energy very well spent.

    Cheers, and I promise not to bother you with this topic again.
    .-= Ms Terri@LOST for a reason´s last blog ..Bumbershoot part 2: ‘Fortunately, Damon loves time travel’ =-.

  • hospitalera

    @Ms Terri
    Did you actually read what Lissie and I wrote? You didn’t bother me by commenting on what today.com is doing, or what you believe they are doing, what bothers me is the waste of energy in something what is clearly a thing of the past. If you really believe

    “But for myself, I am proud that a group of us Exiles fought them, and that we won — they have now taken down the porn-ad overlays. I consider it energy very well spent.”

    then please tell us how you have done it. A court order? A lawyer? What makes you think it was your doing? SY

  • Terri, I think we should leave here and just deal with things on the main ex-Today blog, where people still seem to value their online reputations.

  • hospitalera

    @Phyl What makes you think that I don’t value my online reputation? SY

  • Hospitalera, I wrote what I did (on my last comment) the way that I did because I was trying to avoid an argument. I wanted to bow out and bring this discussion here to a close on a positive note, because I like you and I didn’t want any hard feelings.

    But since you are asking me now to elaborate, I’m finding it hard to resist saying what is on my mind, which I had successfully resisted doing before.

    What’s on my mind is that I was offended when you said that I was wasting my energy, that I needed to “get over it,” and that I had a “fixation.”

    I fully support your right to stay out of any fights with Today.com, and I do, again, apologize for posting something on your blog that you are not interested in. That was an error in judgement on my part, based on what I thought was your interest in what Today.com was doing when “Donny” was recently posting on this thread. I won’t make that mistake again.

    Howver, I think you don’t know me well enough to criticize my motives, tell me how I should be using my energy, or engage in armchair psychoanalysis of my character. To me, that came across as far too personal, and I feel that none of it is your business.

    How you spend your own energy is your business, and again I respect your right not to engage in fights with Today. But how I spend my own energy is my own business, and I was offended that you were making comments about that.

    As for how I know that Today’s removing the porn-ad overlays was our (not “my”) doing, it’s simple cause and effect. (“Our” refers to all the people who filed complaints with Google or who posted comments on the Exile blog or on their own blogs.)

    I didn’t hire a lawyer, but I am a lawyer myself. And no one runs out and gets a court order at the first sign of conflict. First, you try something simpler and less expensive to see if it will work. In this case, it did. End of story. Well, until the next time they pull some slimy stunt. I’m prepared to fight them every step of the way.
    .-= Ms Terri´s last blog ..The complete list of “For a Reason” references =-.

  • Oops, simultaneous posting (ha — I’ve been doing that a lot recently). @Phyl, I didn’t see your post until after I wrote mine.

    Anyway, I like Hospitalera. I think her values are her own business, and I won’t criticize her for that. I just wish she might have extended the same courtesy to me.
    .-= Ms Terri´s last blog ..The complete list of “For a Reason” references =-.

  • hospitalera

    @Ms Terri
    First of all, I decided to follow my own advice and take the “kicked form today.com” page out of my header. Don’t worry about the backlinks, they will still work as the site is still listed in the sitemap and also accessible via search engines. Regarding the rest what you wrote, I don’t think any further discussion would be of any use. SY

  • hospitalera

    Update for all that are interested, seems today.com has now even blocked my ip-address, rofl. I can access my old blog, and every other blog in the network for that matter, only when I go via a proxy or from another location. SY

  • I used to be at notnews.today.com. I’m now at http://newstechnica.com/ . I saved all my old content too.

    (I hereby declare the sysadmin an idiot. He tried hacking up the WordPress export format so it couldn’t be read into a non-Today blog. IT’S XML, ANY PROGRAMMER CAN FIX IT AND GET THEIR STUFF. It’s like trying to block people from right-clicking on an image. *headdesk*)

    Has anyone done a comprehensive today.com expose website? I feel like doing one. I have some form on such sites, fwiw. I feel like becoming that wrong guy they pissed off. Email anything of interest to me at dgerard (at) gmail dot com.
    .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Special trains introduced for the wrong type of snow =-.

    • hospitalera

      Sorry to hear that. I am not a revenge kind of person, and have moved on. But if you want you can go through the comments on this post and contact the other ex-todaylers via their new blogs / sites. SY

      BTW I “disguised” your email address a bit, so that email harvesters don’t get it too easily 😉

      • I’m particularly interested that one particular IP address has started spamming my blogs with comments and saying I “stole content”. 68.38.69.114 is the address, a residential DSL. Anyone had a word from this fine fellow?
        .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Special trains introduced for the wrong type of snow =-.

        • hospitalera

          They might be actually right. You signed a contract with today.com that stats that you hand over the copyright to all written material you post. At least that is what the agreement stated when I signed up. Legally you are not anymore the owner of the blog posts you have written on today.com. As for the ip address you gave, no idea, doesn’t ring any bell. SY

        • In fact, they are almost certainly wrong. They broke the deal they made good and hard. This would not play well in UK law. (Precedents include record company ripoffs on contracts actually written on paper, rather than a click-through.)

          Even if they weren’t, I would expect something a little less silly than misspelt blog comments. It’s not like they don’t have my address.
          .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Special trains introduced for the wrong type of snow =-.

          • hospitalera

            Actually I would believe, nearly, everything about this company. They even managed to ban my ip address, rofl, seems they never heard of proxies and anonymous surfing. I agree that it will be difficult for them to proof their case in court, but also consider that you will run in a massive double content issue with Google if you re-publish the same articles unchanged. Something to think about in terms of SEO! SY

          • I’m looking forward to something that constitutes a declaratory judgement, or at least assertion, then a DMCA notice to their upstream. But that can wait.

            By the way, today.com’s domain registration info is kept private … crikey, even mine is public.
            .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Google Nexus One failed to revive my dead grandmother =-.

  • hospitalera

    That is an interesting find, as far as I remember it always was public, like mine and yours, as for taking action / revenge, whatever you call it. Yes, the temptation is there when you just got “fired” but imho it is a waste of energy that could be used for something better. But you can always join the crowd at http://todayexiles.blogspot.com/ with their smashing slogan “to hell with today.com” 😉 Again, if you re-publish all your posts on another domain will run into double content issues with Google, you, not today.com, as they were indexed there earlier. Unfair, yes, something you can do about it? Not really, SY

  • Today.com appears to be dead. They sold the domain name to MSNBC for the Today Show!

    So NONE of my content is duplicated. They’ve given up.

    😀
    .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Riots outside Relate offices as Christian therapist loses appeal bid =-.

    • hospitalera

      Thanks for the update, David, seems they are gone for good. I am just wondering to which “great adventure” they are off next. I would also like to know how they informed the bloggers they still worked with from the change. Any insider info on that one anybody? SY

  • Hindleyite was still writing retroyakking entries in April. I’ll ask him.
    .-= David Gerard´s last blog ..Riots outside Relate offices as Christian therapist loses appeal bid =-.

  • Thanks for letting us all know, David. I’m going to repost a lot more of my old stuff now, I think. 🙂

    I think I still have the email address of the guy who was writing the Science Fun blog; I’ll email him and see what’s up with him, and how he found out about things.

    • hospitalera

      Thanks Phyl, if you have “timeless” content, now is the time to re-publish it, if you forgive the pun, SY